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Look, it can never be seen, for it has no form. 
Listen, it can never be heard, it is beyond sound. 
Grasp, it can never be held, it is intangible. 
Although it can never be seen, heard or held, its spirit is always there. 
For it is formed from nothing and so returns to nothing. 
It is beyond description, But it is the Mother of the Ten Thousand Things. 
It has no beginning and no end, but it is great. 
Stay with this (in your heart) the ancient Dao, but move with the present.  
Knowing the Dao is the ancient beginning of all things.

 

Any thoughts?

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Look, it cannot be seen - it is beyond form.
Listen, it cannot be heard - it is beyond sound.
Grasp, it cannot be held - it is intangible.

 

I don't like him defining that it is beyond form,sound,intangible.  Too many claims here.  Just say you don't know.

This world we see through vision and sound and touch ... within it we sense something else.  With the outer senses of the head we can identify a world, but from our belly we sense something else alive within it.

The Force that flows, that is the cause origin, and conveyor.

Which is the true form ... that which our senses capture ?  Or do we one day experience that as a dream, with the true form being the spirit.

And perhaps later we realise that it is our inexperience that captures light sound and form ... as unholy ... because they are also holy but only great sensitivity can experience that.  Visual light is like the eyes of God.

 

These three are indefinable;
Therefore they are joined in one.

 

Reaching down through this world we find one origin, mater, light, and sound ... emanates from it in different planes of the manifest.

....

 

Stay with the ancient Tao,
Move with the present.

 

Connected within to the source we move within the outer world.

Later there is only one world.

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On 1/15/2020 at 6:49 AM, Tom said:

14  
Look, it can never be seen, for it has no form. 
Listen, it can never be heard, it is beyond sound. 
Grasp, it can never be held, it is intangible. 
Although it can never be seen, heard or held, its spirit is always there. 
For it is formed from nothing and so returns to nothing. 
It is beyond description, But it is the Mother of the Ten Thousand Things. 
It has no beginning and no end, but it is great. 
Stay with this (in your heart) the ancient Dao, but move with the present.  
Knowing the Dao is the ancient beginning of all things.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Emptiness is the infinite potential from which all things arise.

It is found within.

The move with the present.. seems to say don't just stay there or cease into emptiness but also be that arising that is all things.

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Here is Jeff's take.

 

14  
Look, it can never be seen, for it has no form. 
Listen, it can never be heard, it is beyond sound. 
Grasp, it can never be held, it is intangible. 
Although it can never be seen, heard or held, its spirit is always there. 
For it is formed from nothing and so returns to nothing. 
It is beyond description, But it is the Mother of the Ten Thousand Things. 
It has no beginning and no end, but it is great. 
Stay with this (in your heart) the ancient Dao, but move with the present.  
Knowing the Dao is the ancient beginning of all things.

 

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The light of the "One"  (not Dao here) cannot be seen. It is beyond form.

The light cannot be heard (is not the high pitched sound that some hear).

The light cannot be held (locked into form, as that would be energy).

The light is undefinable.

There is nothing "higher" that can exist.

There is nothing "lower" or less formless.

And it is all a continual spectrum.

It emerges from the Dao, and is the formless motion of the Dao.

It is undefinable and beyond "mind".

Trying to chase it is hopeless as mind has no end.

Simply stay present and "reside" in the moment.

Knowing this is the essence of realizing the Tao.

 

 

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